Sharing the Gospel of Jesus…in a bar…yeah…a bar (pt4)

by Craig on July 10, 2012

And I shared the Gospel of Jesus in a place. like. this.source

I was just watching a ball game in a Sports bar, and a debate about God sprang up.
This is part 4. The transcript of this Sharing the Gospel of Jesus…in a sports…begins here

And at this point in the conversation I had forgotten that Chris opened the door to the gospel with his very own question.

“So it’s all our fault?”

It’s so easy to veer off the main points of the gospel…

We are created to be perfect.
We are broken and imperfect.

We need to be made perfect…
even while still being broken.

And it’s accomplished by accepting Our Lord’s sacrifice…
then laying our life down as a living, though imperfect, sacrifice.

I swayed off this topic…but that’s ok.

Because the ringleader of this group of six men was about to open the door…again.

From left field came this slightly askew version of the Great Exchange.
Chris said, as flippantly as if he were laying down an Ace in a game of War,

“So Adam ate the apple and Jesus saved us all. What a nice guy.”

I didn’t even think of the answer, but a word picture flew out like a canary set free from a gilded cage,

the gospel of Jesus flew out like a bird from a cage...source

“The recipe is not the same as having the cake, or eating it.
Jesus came to offer salvation to all…but not all have accepted the gift…
and some who accepted the gift never took it any further…never lived it out.

So yes, there was a Fall of God’s creation…
and Jesus offers salvation from that Fall.
But not all have been saved Chris.”

Then, call it a hunch…
or the product of careful listening…
or maybe a bit of sinful pride…
I would now finish the statement with this,

“But you knew this already. Didn’t you…Chris?”

I know presenting the gospel is not a sales pitch…
and it’s God who saves…not us…not our words.

But still we should try to present it well. No?

I was in sales for a good part of life. In sales, the question I asked Chris ended in what’s called a “tie down”. The “tie down” was “…didn’t you Chris?” It assumes a positive answer, it attempts to lead to a positive answer, it’s used when you have good reason to expect a positive answer.

I got this for an answer.

But that non-answer?

It was a chirping, screaming, banshee of a positive…

And all the other guys heard it.

There is more.

Please come back.

{ 12 comments… read them below or add one }

Michelle July 11, 2012 at 4:48 am

Sometimes we need to throw that question out there, don’t we. The one that makes the other person think.


Craig July 11, 2012 at 9:44 am

Michelle, this gospel conversation happened, of course, while my mind was (and is) not quite still “here and now”. It was well-timed exercise for my mind, a good reminder for my spirit. God has good timing. I think I got some help with this conversation – because clearly the brain wasn’t helping all that much. God bless you Michelle, thank you my friend.


Debbie July 11, 2012 at 7:06 am

I love this and can so clearly see it all set up by Jesus . Even the sales pitch . . .He knew you knew about that. :) The cricket sound was a good thing and I love the way you used the video! God bless you as you respond to Him today!


Craig July 11, 2012 at 9:46 am

through the six weeks I haven’t relied upon our Lord enough – I really think I got some help from HIM with this – HE is with us in EVERY situation, isn’t he? Eyes on HIM… Eyes on him – and a thank you to you. God bless you, Debbie.


Martha Orlando July 11, 2012 at 2:01 pm

I had never heard the term “tie-down” and I really liked it – something said that assumes a positive response can never be bad, now, can it? :)
Love how God is working through this whole adventure. Wow! Can’t wait for the next installment!
Blessings, Craig!


Craig July 11, 2012 at 2:44 pm

It’s the only sales tactic I used. I think used it intentionally. I think it was a smidge of pride. It’s an effective sales tactic because to get to the “close” of a sale it’s best to have :yes” lined up a bunch of times. Anyway – thank you Martha – thank you, really. Blessings to you too, my friend.


Debra July 12, 2012 at 12:59 am

Loved! Oh, and I went over to Wonderland too while I was here, checking up on you.
This reminded me of a friend of mine who wanted see what would happen if he walked into a bar wearing a clerical collar. Mike was no more a priest than I am a pagan, but he went in and sat down at the bar. Sure enough, a guy next to him struck up a conversation, telling my friend about a battle he was facing. Of course Mike told him to cast all his cares on the Lord for He cared for him.
Share the gospel in a bar and you just might hit the jackpot 😉


Craig July 12, 2012 at 6:37 pm

Thank you Debra, thank you for checking on me – everything I do now, EVERYTHING is a struggle, everything is hard. every part of me wants to go back to “there and nowhere.”. I don’t want to let go of it – the evil part of it won’t leave me alone, it still claws at me – and the good part, it calls like a siren. I DO need to know that there are those who are checking up on me. I appreciate this more than you can know. I’ll keep pushing forward, keep struggling, and I have my LIGHT which shines the way – where would I be without Him? God bless and keep you Debra, and thank you, really, thank you.


Layla Payton July 12, 2012 at 7:36 pm

I just keep scooting my chair closer to the screen…


Craig July 12, 2012 at 7:47 pm

Layla, it is such an awfully nice thing to have you here, reading. I’m going to keep writing, although every second of every minute the “there and nowhere.” – it pulls on me so hard. It is so difficult to explain. The horrible that I experienced – it invades every minute – and when it doesn’t invade – the pleasant that I experienced during that week – that calls to me like a siren. I’m going to keep plugging forward – I’m going to keep writing – I’m going to start reading – I’m going to fight this with everything I have. Nothing has had this kind of grip on me before – and it has cost so much – so much more than I said. So, Layla, thank you for being here – I get teary – I AM teary as I write this – for people like you. God bless and keep you my friend.


nancy July 13, 2012 at 6:57 am

Craig, i wish you were my brother, in the real world. or my best friend for all my life. i think you would be a good best friend. thank you for writing, for hanging in, for not giving up and checking out. i read you most every day and always, always find something to take away. yes, i am selfish and come looking for something for me to help me through the day. and i pray for you in this that you are going through. thank you for blessing my life. God bless you. please hurry back.


Craig July 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm

Nancy, we really are brother and sister in the real world – and I’m only learning how to be a good friend – so you didn’t really want me as a friend for so much of my life. Even now, I haven’t really learned how to connect very well – last year was named “connect” and I began learning – but there’s a way to go. But I am grateful for your friendship as it is. And I wish I could say that I never checked out – but I have checked out too much, too often. I’m really happy you find some thinsg to take away – this blesses me in ways I can’t tell you. Please come, take as much as you want, everything I write helps me – so if you’re anything at all like me – it’ll probably help you to. And although I’m not back yet. Nancy, it doesn’t matter, it’s about trudging through this, because all I want to do is disappear, curl up in the darkness, go back to the “bear and nowhere.” – But I can’t – I have to move forward – I have to seek God’s will – I have to make brave decisions – and so I will – and so I am. God bless and keep you – my friend.


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